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	<title>Comments on: PUSD not alone in high-interest financing</title>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-609609</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know that old saying that &quot;Americans love a deal&quot;?  Well, in 2008 we thought that we were getting a really good deal when it was said that PUSD could raise a bond and not raise our taxes at the same time.  Maybe we only heard the &quot;no raising of taxes&quot; part and chose to ignore the fact that if you raise a bond you need to repay it. 
 
I,  for one,  did not approve of Prop C in 2008.  While the &quot;no raising of taxes&quot; was tempting, I would have liked to reduce the 800 dollars a year I was  paying on my  property taxes to pay for already existing School and Community College bonds. If they had been allowed to lapse I would have made those savings - but no luck there.   
 
Prop C passed because, God forbid,  our children would have to attend schools that were over 20 years old - and if the bonds were not &quot;going to cost us anything more&quot;, lets go for it. 
 
As a 65 year old Poway resident, I should really not worry about this looming debt. 
 
 I probably won&#039;t be living here in 20 odd years time when this debt becomes payable(or anywhere else for that matter) 
 
As one poster says, maybe its right that today&#039;s taxpayers are not paying for this debt but that the children, who are attending these new schools and getting their  first class education because of them, should pay for them when they enter the job market. 
 
One amusing  thing that has come out of this?  Poway is now known to the global financial world, since Gillian Tett wrote about its &quot;creative even exotic financing&quot;  in the Financial Times. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know that old saying that &quot;Americans love a deal&quot;?  Well, in 2008 we thought that we were getting a really good deal when it was said that PUSD could raise a bond and not raise our taxes at the same time.  Maybe we only heard the &quot;no raising of taxes&quot; part and chose to ignore the fact that if you raise a bond you need to repay it. </p>
<p>I,  for one,  did not approve of Prop C in 2008.  While the &quot;no raising of taxes&quot; was tempting, I would have liked to reduce the 800 dollars a year I was  paying on my  property taxes to pay for already existing School and Community College bonds. If they had been allowed to lapse I would have made those savings &#8211; but no luck there.   </p>
<p>Prop C passed because, God forbid,  our children would have to attend schools that were over 20 years old &#8211; and if the bonds were not &quot;going to cost us anything more&quot;, lets go for it. </p>
<p>As a 65 year old Poway resident, I should really not worry about this looming debt. </p>
<p> I probably won&#039;t be living here in 20 odd years time when this debt becomes payable(or anywhere else for that matter) </p>
<p>As one poster says, maybe its right that today&#039;s taxpayers are not paying for this debt but that the children, who are attending these new schools and getting their  first class education because of them, should pay for them when they enter the job market. </p>
<p>One amusing  thing that has come out of this?  Poway is now known to the global financial world, since Gillian Tett wrote about its &quot;creative even exotic financing&quot;  in the Financial Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Poway taxpayer</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-608617</link>
		<dc:creator>Poway taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Pomerado News/Chieftain reprints the Bond scam article the next time PUSD asks for a bond measure for more money, which will be in a very few years. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Pomerado News/Chieftain reprints the Bond scam article the next time PUSD asks for a bond measure for more money, which will be in a very few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-607229</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vanderveen is more of a mover and more &quot;in&quot; with the establishment. Patapow is comparatively harmless. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanderveen is more of a mover and more &quot;in&quot; with the establishment. Patapow is comparatively harmless.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe St. Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-606907</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe St. Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which one would you suggest NOT coming back out of the two incumbents? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which one would you suggest NOT coming back out of the two incumbents?</p>
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		<title>By: Becky P</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-606621</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know who is funding this? Who are these mystery investors? Also is this bond tax free to them (like many muni bonds)? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know who is funding this? Who are these mystery investors? Also is this bond tax free to them (like many muni bonds)?</p>
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		<title>By: Clariece</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-605649</link>
		<dc:creator>Clariece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order for the grand jury to investigate a citizen or group of citizens completes a form and submits what evidence they have.   The grand jury doesn&#039;t just wake up and convene itself.   To find out more about how to complete a formal grand jury submission you can go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sandiego.ca.gov/grandjury&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.sandiego.ca.gov/grandjury&lt;/a&gt;.  The application form along with the instructions and explanation of the process is all there.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order for the grand jury to investigate a citizen or group of citizens completes a form and submits what evidence they have.   The grand jury doesn&#039;t just wake up and convene itself.   To find out more about how to complete a formal grand jury submission you can go to <a href="http://www.sandiego.ca.gov/grandjury" rel="nofollow">http://www.sandiego.ca.gov/grandjury</a>.  The application form along with the instructions and explanation of the process is all there.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-605643</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only one challenger going up against the two incumbents.  Therein lies part of the problem.  With Mangum, since he&#039;s running for city council - it will be easy to NOT elect him.  But one of the school board incumbents will unfortunately be reelected just because there aren&#039;t enough challengers and the filing period has closed.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one challenger going up against the two incumbents.  Therein lies part of the problem.  With Mangum, since he&#039;s running for city council &#8211; it will be easy to NOT elect him.  But one of the school board incumbents will unfortunately be reelected just because there aren&#039;t enough challengers and the filing period has closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom of 4</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-605515</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom of 4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two members of the Poway school board are up for re-election in Nov. After this poor fiscal decision I can&#039;t imagine how they can possibly win the election.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two members of the Poway school board are up for re-election in Nov. After this poor fiscal decision I can&#039;t imagine how they can possibly win the election.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-604757</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot Vanderveen. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot Vanderveen.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/08/pusd-not-alone-in-high-interest-financing/#comment-604579</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The San Diego County Taxpayers were deceived with the same misinformation as the rest of us.  Lani Lutar stated that they never would have an endorsed a Capital Appreciation Bond that extended beyond 25 years.  They were never presented with any information other than it was a general bond which they took to mean the typical serial bond. As a side note a typical serial bond has a ratio of no more than 3 or 4 to 1.  The Prop C bond has a ratio of 9 to 1.  You can&#039;t blame SDCTA for intentional misrepresentation by the Board Trustees Mangum, Papatow, Rantfle and Gutshow. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The San Diego County Taxpayers were deceived with the same misinformation as the rest of us.  Lani Lutar stated that they never would have an endorsed a Capital Appreciation Bond that extended beyond 25 years.  They were never presented with any information other than it was a general bond which they took to mean the typical serial bond. As a side note a typical serial bond has a ratio of no more than 3 or 4 to 1.  The Prop C bond has a ratio of 9 to 1.  You can&#039;t blame SDCTA for intentional misrepresentation by the Board Trustees Mangum, Papatow, Rantfle and Gutshow.</p>
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