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	<title>Comments on: Dick Lyles: Are Poway Unified bond critics helping community or themselves?</title>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/24/dick-lyles-are-poway-unified-school-district-bond-critics-helping-community-or-themselves/#comment-627859</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is gloating over any of this.  2011 was the worst of it. There are multiple bonds involved and go back several years.  The Board may have done good things but it is completely overshadowed by their poor financial planning - which covers the period Mangum was also on the board.  And which opponent is taking advantage? It seems there are so many justifiably upset by this with only the Mangum group accusing this of being political.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is gloating over any of this.  2011 was the worst of it. There are multiple bonds involved and go back several years.  The Board may have done good things but it is completely overshadowed by their poor financial planning &#8211; which covers the period Mangum was also on the board.  And which opponent is taking advantage? It seems there are so many justifiably upset by this with only the Mangum group accusing this of being political.</p>
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		<title>By: Go Poway!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Go Poway!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 05:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to re-read what seekinfo said. I didn&#039;t see anywhere where it said Mangum&#039;s opponent WROTE the article. Seekinfo refers to an opponent taking advantage of the article to find any way possible to connect Mangum to a 2011 vote that was made almost 6 months after Mangum left the school board. And I agree that many of critics are certainly quick to forget how much these board members have done for the district. I would call all the rabid critics fair weather friends, but I&#039;m beginning to think they never were friends of the school district. All these critics seem to be gloating over the district&#039;s misfortune and intent on dragging PUSD, its board members (current and past)  and the community down just as Mr. Lyles said in his article. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to re-read what seekinfo said. I didn&#039;t see anywhere where it said Mangum&#039;s opponent WROTE the article. Seekinfo refers to an opponent taking advantage of the article to find any way possible to connect Mangum to a 2011 vote that was made almost 6 months after Mangum left the school board. And I agree that many of critics are certainly quick to forget how much these board members have done for the district. I would call all the rabid critics fair weather friends, but I&#039;m beginning to think they never were friends of the school district. All these critics seem to be gloating over the district&#039;s misfortune and intent on dragging PUSD, its board members (current and past)  and the community down just as Mr. Lyles said in his article.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe St. Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/24/dick-lyles-are-poway-unified-school-district-bond-critics-helping-community-or-themselves/#comment-626748</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe St. Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I invest in these bonds?  I want to earn 12% interest on my money payable in 20 years!  That&#039;ll really help my retirement. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I invest in these bonds?  I want to earn 12% interest on my money payable in 20 years!  That&#039;ll really help my retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: WakeUp</title>
		<link>http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/24/dick-lyles-are-poway-unified-school-district-bond-critics-helping-community-or-themselves/#comment-626732</link>
		<dc:creator>WakeUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m thrilled that in your view the worst bond financing in the country is ok with you.  And don&#039;t use the &quot;equitable and appropriate&quot; that&#039;s a load of horse manure.   This wasn&#039;t for the kids.   No where was it stated it was necessary to do all 24 schools at once.  The district could have started off with the worst and worked down the list.  Also the argument that starting and stopping a project would have been expensive.  It may have cost something but it was a whole lot less than a billion.    This was irresponsible fiscal management by the Board for the last 10 years.  What&#039;s the term I read in the UT - &quot;naive or irretrieveably stupid&quot; to believe this was anything less than a full breach of fiduciary duty by the Trustees.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#039;m thrilled that in your view the worst bond financing in the country is ok with you.  And don&#039;t use the &quot;equitable and appropriate&quot; that&#039;s a load of horse manure.   This wasn&#039;t for the kids.   No where was it stated it was necessary to do all 24 schools at once.  The district could have started off with the worst and worked down the list.  Also the argument that starting and stopping a project would have been expensive.  It may have cost something but it was a whole lot less than a billion.    This was irresponsible fiscal management by the Board for the last 10 years.  What&#039;s the term I read in the UT &#8211; &quot;naive or irretrieveably stupid&quot; to believe this was anything less than a full breach of fiduciary duty by the Trustees.</p>
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		<title>By: Seekinfo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seekinfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to see how the &#8220;Above the Market&#8221; piece &#8220;completely dismantles&#8221; the Nuveen analysis.  In fact the Above the Market (AM) piece  opens with conveniently leaving out the $21.36 million premium generated at issuance &#8211; why not tell the whole story?  The AM piece is told through the lens of hindsight.  The AM piece essentially states that PUSD should have known projects will go over budget which is an extreme oversimplification of what lead PUSD to utilizing the CAB.   
 
No one is pleased with this financing outcome, but giving the circumstances in my view it was necessary.  As a result, the 22,000 PUSD students who attend the 24 oldest schools in the SFID now have equitable and appropriate learning facilities that have been improved to provide another 30-plus years of service to our students and community.    
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see how the &ldquo;Above the Market&rdquo; piece &ldquo;completely dismantles&rdquo; the Nuveen analysis.  In fact the Above the Market (AM) piece  opens with conveniently leaving out the $21.36 million premium generated at issuance &ndash; why not tell the whole story?  The AM piece is told through the lens of hindsight.  The AM piece essentially states that PUSD should have known projects will go over budget which is an extreme oversimplification of what lead PUSD to utilizing the CAB.   </p>
<p>No one is pleased with this financing outcome, but giving the circumstances in my view it was necessary.  As a result, the 22,000 PUSD students who attend the 24 oldest schools in the SFID now have equitable and appropriate learning facilities that have been improved to provide another 30-plus years of service to our students and community.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Yarnall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Yarnall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seekinfo, please tell the millions of people who are underwater with their loans that real estate prices will always go up. Did Nuveen predict prices would fall 30-40%? I&#039;ll just bet they would love to come in, for a price, and guide PUSD in the future. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seekinfo, please tell the millions of people who are underwater with their loans that real estate prices will always go up. Did Nuveen predict prices would fall 30-40%? I&#039;ll just bet they would love to come in, for a price, and guide PUSD in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: WakeUp</title>
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		<dc:creator>WakeUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuveen is alone in their assessment.  Please let me know how I can better &quot;appreciate&quot; an intergenerational debt of over a billion dollars.  It&#039;s fiscally irresponsible. Stop trying to justify it.  No one agrees  them except you and the irresponsible Trustees over the past 10 years who have saddled us with this intergenerational debt.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuveen is alone in their assessment.  Please let me know how I can better &quot;appreciate&quot; an intergenerational debt of over a billion dollars.  It&#039;s fiscally irresponsible. Stop trying to justify it.  No one agrees  them except you and the irresponsible Trustees over the past 10 years who have saddled us with this intergenerational debt.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From &quot;Above the Market&quot; publication which completely dismantles the Nuveen analysis: 
 
&quot;Just to add a little &#8220;kicker,&#8221; note that the Nuveen argument is made using an illustration involving &#8220;a home that is worth $300,000 in 2017,&#8221; even though the median value of a home in the district today is nearly $500,000.  So the actual numbers are (of course) far worse than advertised.  But even then, the &#8220;monthly contributions to the annual levy&#8221; according to that analysis go from $5.04 to $74.49 over the life of the bond, and that&#8217;s a fifteen-fold increase.  If you think that&#8217;s a reasonable increase, you must work for the underwriter or want to buy more of these bonds.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From &quot;Above the Market&quot; publication which completely dismantles the Nuveen analysis: </p>
<p>&quot;Just to add a little &ldquo;kicker,&rdquo; note that the Nuveen argument is made using an illustration involving &ldquo;a home that is worth $300,000 in 2017,&rdquo; even though the median value of a home in the district today is nearly $500,000.  So the actual numbers are (of course) far worse than advertised.  But even then, the &ldquo;monthly contributions to the annual levy&rdquo; according to that analysis go from $5.04 to $74.49 over the life of the bond, and that&rsquo;s a fifteen-fold increase.  If you think that&rsquo;s a reasonable increase, you must work for the underwriter or want to buy more of these bonds.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Seekinfo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seekinfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Nuveen Asset Management:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nuveen.com/Home/Documents/Viewer.aspx?fileId=56884http://www.nuveen.com/Home/Documents/Viewer.aspx?fileId=56884&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nuveen.com/Home/Documents/Viewer.aspx?...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
&quot;When studying the debt structure of a bond, one should always take into consideration that particular issuer&#8217;s overall debt structure and other key credit characteristics. In the case of Poway USD, the media attention paid to this bond misses the fundamental nature of the bond by ignoring the premium generated at sale, doesn&#8217;t take into consideration the district&#8217;s overall debt structure, gives little weight to the public policy dilemma of intergenerational fairness and fails to properly an&#172;alyze the affordability of the improvement district&#8217;s debt. We believe a more complete analysis of the situation &#8211; as we&#8217;ve outlined here &#8211; better &#8220;appreciates&#8221; the nature of this capital appreciation bond.&quot; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Nuveen Asset Management:  <a href="http://www.nuveen.com/Home/Documents/Viewer.aspx?fileId=56884http://www.nuveen.com/Home/Documents/Viewer.aspx?fileId=56884" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nuveen.com/Home/Documents/Viewer.aspx?.." rel="nofollow">http://www.nuveen.com/Home/Documents/Viewer.aspx?..</a>. </p>
<p>&quot;When studying the debt structure of a bond, one should always take into consideration that particular issuer&rsquo;s overall debt structure and other key credit characteristics. In the case of Poway USD, the media attention paid to this bond misses the fundamental nature of the bond by ignoring the premium generated at sale, doesn&rsquo;t take into consideration the district&rsquo;s overall debt structure, gives little weight to the public policy dilemma of intergenerational fairness and fails to properly an&not;alyze the affordability of the improvement district&rsquo;s debt. We believe a more complete analysis of the situation &ndash; as we&rsquo;ve outlined here &ndash; better &ldquo;appreciates&rdquo; the nature of this capital appreciation bond.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: WakeUp</title>
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		<dc:creator>WakeUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seekinfo go back to my post earlier today in response to your post this morning.  The answer is the same.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seekinfo go back to my post earlier today in response to your post this morning.  The answer is the same.</p>
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