Comments on: Letters to the Editor – Issue of Aug. 30, 2012 http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/ Serving Poway, Rancho Bernardo and 4S Ranch Wed, 22 May 2013 04:11:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: vicki Jo Jones http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-634819 vicki Jo Jones Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:44:23 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-634819 Shirley Cooper did nothing more than repeat the democratic talking points. Nothing new in her comments regarding the choice of Paul Ryan for vice-president. If women can't afford children after 4 yrs of Obama, what makes her think the next 8 years will be better? Nancy Pelosi is quoted as saying, "we're going to tax everything that isn't nailed down. That means you too Ms. Cooper! A quick fact check tells us that Mr. Obama's stimulus financed several companies who have sent jobs abroad. And, if Ms. Cooper can tell us that she has viewed a video of an abortion in progress, and still agrees with the work of Planned Parenthood, I will cheerfully change parties. If she listens to the campaigns she will not have to guess that a vote for Romney/Ryan is the smart one for her and her family. Shirley Cooper did nothing more than repeat the democratic talking points. Nothing new in her comments regarding the choice of Paul Ryan for vice-president. If women can't afford children after 4 yrs of Obama, what makes her think the next 8 years will be better? Nancy Pelosi is quoted as saying, "we're going to tax everything that isn't nailed down. That means you too Ms. Cooper! A quick fact check tells us that Mr. Obama's stimulus financed several companies who have sent jobs abroad. And, if Ms. Cooper can tell us that she has viewed a video of an abortion in progress, and still agrees with the work of Planned Parenthood, I will cheerfully change parties. If she listens to the campaigns she will not have to guess that a vote for Romney/Ryan is the smart one for her and her family.

]]> By: Meryls_say http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-634504 Meryls_say Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:21:48 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-634504 Follow up to A word from Family Dog. We got the DNA test back for DM and it's clear. What this means is that Benny doesn't have the particular genetic marker for DM. The Vet said it could be a different type of myleopathy or other condition causing the neurological problem inside the myelyn sheath of the spinal cord. We are fitting Benny for his wheels and hope to get them to see if they can assist him to be ambulatory again. If you see your dog has a problem in his rear legs and you would like to know more about DM use these links. We are living in an age now where we have better nutrition and medical help for our pets. We want to give our pets all we can to help them and expect to see more handicapped and disabled pets being cared for today and into the future. The time is coming when it will be as rude to gawk or comment on a disabled pet as it is to comment on a disability in humans. DM is linked to the same genetic disorder that causes, ALS, (Lou Gehrig's disease in humans. The University of Missouri is testing dog's DNA for the gene that shows if they carry DM. <a href="http://www.caninegeneticdiseases.net/DM/basicDM.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.caninegeneticdiseases.net/DM/basicDM.h...</a> Here's an article showing the link between humans and animals in Science Daily <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090121174124.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/0901...</a> Follow up to A word from Family Dog. We got the DNA test back for DM and it's clear. What this means is that Benny doesn't have the particular genetic marker for DM. The Vet said it could be a different type of myleopathy or other condition causing the neurological problem inside the myelyn sheath of the spinal cord. We are fitting Benny for his wheels and hope to get them to see if they can assist him to be ambulatory again. If you see your dog has a problem in his rear legs and you would like to know more about DM use these links. We are living in an age now where we have better nutrition and medical help for our pets. We want to give our pets all we can to help them and expect to see more handicapped and disabled pets being cared for today and into the future. The time is coming when it will be as rude to gawk or comment on a disabled pet as it is to comment on a disability in humans. DM is linked to the same genetic disorder that causes, ALS, (Lou Gehrig's disease in humans. The University of Missouri is testing dog's DNA for the gene that shows if they carry DM. http://www.caninegeneticdiseases.net/DM/basicDM.h...
Here's an article showing the link between humans and animals in Science Daily http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/0901...

]]> By: Go Poway! http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-632585 Go Poway! Sat, 01 Sep 2012 02:08:47 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-632585 Now that you mention it, JohnN, I must admit I noticed the same thing! Now that you mention it, JohnN, I must admit I noticed the same thing!

]]> By: JohnN http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-632227 JohnN Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:43:57 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-632227 Oh, and as for all the "negative feedback", I have my own "spin" on that too! Even before the bond controversy, I noticed there were a select group of people negatively commenting (and thumbs downing) every article and comment here that referenced either Jeff Mangum or PUSD (and bringing Mangum's name into PUSD articles that didn't even mention Mangum). I think that Mangum's opponents have a group of of about 20 people who troll these boards, waiting for any opportunity to criticize him. Oh, and as for all the "negative feedback", I have my own "spin" on that too! Even before the bond controversy, I noticed there were a select group of people negatively commenting (and thumbs downing) every article and comment here that referenced either Jeff Mangum or PUSD (and bringing Mangum's name into PUSD articles that didn't even mention Mangum). I think that Mangum's opponents have a group of of about 20 people who troll these boards, waiting for any opportunity to criticize him.

]]> By: JohnN http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-632101 JohnN Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:35:17 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-632101 I'm not entirely sure what you mean when you say I'm only qualified to dispense information for those in "my group". But you're right Clariece, we could do this all day...and it won't change the fact that (even though you are angry about the bond itself) I can't trust what you say about Mangum and your motives for saying it. I'll have to look into the 2006 CAB, my apologies if I was incorrect about the no call feature (though I'm still not seeing this 6 to 1 repayment ratio you keep mentioning, where are you finding this numbers?). However, I still have not seen credible evidence, that proves Mangum was fiscally irresponsible. But hey, we're all entitled to our own opinion. I'm not entirely sure what you mean when you say I'm only qualified to dispense information for those in "my group". But you're right Clariece, we could do this all day…and it won't change the fact that (even though you are angry about the bond itself) I can't trust what you say about Mangum and your motives for saying it.

I'll have to look into the 2006 CAB, my apologies if I was incorrect about the no call feature (though I'm still not seeing this 6 to 1 repayment ratio you keep mentioning, where are you finding this numbers?). However, I still have not seen credible evidence, that proves Mangum was fiscally irresponsible. But hey, we're all entitled to our own opinion.

]]> By: PositivelyPoway http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-630547 PositivelyPoway Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:39:34 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-630547 It appears by the positive/negative responses that no one is buying the GoPoway!/John N spin. What further amazes me is because many of us are critical of the entire Board situation we somehow disloyal to this wonderful community. Maybe if s a few people had actually paid attention to Allen Hemphil and Chris Cruse we wouldn't be having this discussion. That somehow GoPoway and JohnN are only qualified to dispense information or those in their group. There were other parents who were opposed to the bond measures and were told to shut up and get on board. Just an FYI in 2006 there was a Capital Appreciation Bond with no call feature and a 6 to 1 payment ratio. So 2011 wasn't anything new just bigger. We could do this all day and it just won't change the fact that the bond financing issues overshadow all else for the time being. I do believe we have beat this discussion to death for the time being and until new information is shed through litigation or whatever I believe most voters will choose to err on the side of caution this November and not elect Mr. Mangum or Linda Vanderveen or Andy Patapow. Although unfortunately it looks like at least Vanderveen or Patapow will be back. It appears by the positive/negative responses that no one is buying the GoPoway!/John N spin. What further amazes me is because many of us are critical of the entire Board situation we somehow disloyal to this wonderful community. Maybe if s a few people had actually paid attention to Allen Hemphil and Chris Cruse we wouldn't be having this discussion. That somehow GoPoway and JohnN are only qualified to dispense information or those in their group. There were other parents who were opposed to the bond measures and were told to shut up and get on board.

Just an FYI in 2006 there was a Capital Appreciation Bond with no call feature and a 6 to 1 payment ratio. So 2011 wasn't anything new just bigger.

We could do this all day and it just won't change the fact that the bond financing issues overshadow all else for the time being. I do believe we have beat this discussion to death for the time being and until new information is shed through litigation or whatever I believe most voters will choose to err on the side of caution this November and not elect Mr. Mangum or Linda Vanderveen or Andy Patapow. Although unfortunately it looks like at least Vanderveen or Patapow will be back.

]]> By: Go Poway! http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-630467 Go Poway! Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:28:21 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-630467 Thanks Tom for giving the board members the benefit of the doubt. I am assuming the board members would like to respond but can't because of threats of litigation. Thanks Tom for giving the board members the benefit of the doubt. I am assuming the board members would like to respond but can't because of threats of litigation.

]]> By: Go Poway! http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-630464 Go Poway! Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:25:36 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-630464 Now you are putting words in my mouth (or apparently in my brain). What I think is a shame is that there is not more courtesy involved in this discussion. Quick to judge. Quick to condemn. It's easier to armchair quarterback when you have hindsight to back you up. Critics are not interested in trying to understand all the complexities of the issue. And it is complex. You attack viciously, assuming everyone has ulterior motives. It's a natural reaction to defend when people make cruel remarks about decent people who may have made a mistake -- as if they themselves are perfect and would never have done such a thing (again armchair quarterbacking). I am actually very disappointed in our community. Not that they are upset. I get that. But that so many of them are jumping to conclusions, viciously attacking and engaging in character assassination. Again, no courtesy in the way they express themselves. Now you are putting words in my mouth (or apparently in my brain). What I think is a shame is that there is not more courtesy involved in this discussion. Quick to judge. Quick to condemn. It's easier to armchair quarterback when you have hindsight to back you up. Critics are not interested in trying to understand all the complexities of the issue. And it is complex. You attack viciously, assuming everyone has ulterior motives. It's a natural reaction to defend when people make cruel remarks about decent people who may have made a mistake — as if they themselves are perfect and would never have done such a thing (again armchair quarterbacking). I am actually very disappointed in our community. Not that they are upset. I get that. But that so many of them are jumping to conclusions, viciously attacking and engaging in character assassination. Again, no courtesy in the way they express themselves.

]]> By: Go Poway! http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-630448 Go Poway! Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:09:28 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-630448 Funny. I was at that same meeting. I didn't hear him say he supported their decision. I heard him say his integrity wouldn't allow him to throw the board under the bus just to get elected to the city council. Now you are putting words in Mangum's mouth. Also, the parameters for the issuance of the bond were already set by Prop C. See my earlier comment about cost overruns. I don't know what other CAB you are referring, but I do know the Prop U bond interest is 4% which is pretty decent. Funny. I was at that same meeting. I didn't hear him say he supported their decision. I heard him say his integrity wouldn't allow him to throw the board under the bus just to get elected to the city council. Now you are putting words in Mangum's mouth.

Also, the parameters for the issuance of the bond were already set by Prop C.

See my earlier comment about cost overruns.

I don't know what other CAB you are referring, but I do know the Prop U bond interest is 4% which is pretty decent.

]]> By: JohnN http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/08/29/letters-to-the-editor-issue-of-aug-30-2012/#comment-630410 JohnN Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:50:32 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=28065#comment-630410 No. Shame on you for playing off of people's fear and lack of understanding on this topic in order to advance your political motives. Your writing sounds so much like a certain Steve Vaus' supporter's writing, I wonder if you're hiding your true name in an attempt to hide the fact that you are one of Vaus' main supporters. No. Shame on you for playing off of people's fear and lack of understanding on this topic in order to advance your political motives.

Your writing sounds so much like a certain Steve Vaus' supporter's writing, I wonder if you're hiding your true name in an attempt to hide the fact that you are one of Vaus' main supporters.

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