Comments on: Committee formed to study controversial PUSD bonds

By: secrets

secrets — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:26:03 +0000

I agree with the problem with WE and what that means to some people in power.
When a water project for Old Coach residents was completed the WE involved apparently decided not to advertise there were funds left over that by a contact were to be returned to residents. It took almost 12 years for those monies to be returned to residents and it was apparently only by accident the secret was revealed. At least a somehwhat happy ending for those folks. Not disclosing, meeting in secret and keeping secrets about finances not the way to go.

By: ClarieceOMGHerAgain

ClarieceOMGHerAgain — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 21:17:57 +0000

I have consistently disclosed I am that same person. What's your point? That I support Vaus or that I write a lot? You support Mangum so your comments are politically motivated. However, if you're going to complete my resume for me you forgot I write an opinion column in another local publication. I have covered not only the bond issue, but Cunningham's excessive self-financing and Congressman Weiner’s little indiscretion. I have written about term limits and the redevelopment agency. I also wrote a Viewpoint a couple of years back about Boyack and Higginson.

All of this can be considered politically motivated. I will drag out the big guns on the big issues and I don't care who you are. I will always support the candidate that I feel best exemplifies this community and its high standards. Mangum and the entire Board made a huge error in judgment when putting out these bonds. Therefore, until there is a final resolution on the legality of the bonds and the premiums paid, Mangum should not be in any elected position. It is what it is.

By: JacobM

JacobM — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:10:21 +0000

Now Clariece, you wouldn't be the same Clariece Tally who is cited in a July 2010 NC Times article as being a Steve Vaus supporter, would you? The one who felt the need to remind the then-recently-elected John Mullins that 8,000 people didn't vote for him? The same Clariece Tally who is all over the elect Steve Vaus Facebook page? Oh, that is you? But surely if you were THAT Clariece Tally, you wouldn't then get up on Fox News and mention that the evil Jeff Mangum was running for City Council without failing to disclose that you are a long-time, very vocal supporter of Mangum's political opposition. And surely you wouldn't comment on every single PUSD bond article that might give you any further opportunity to criticize Mangum without making the same disclosure, right? Oh, you would? Hmm. I guess the bond committee isn't the only thing we're not getting full disclosure about, is it? And yet somehow they're the ones who are politically motivated and not you, right? Riiight.

By: AshleyN

AshleyN — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:39:34 +0000

Sorry you don't the term "CYA." But it's accurate. The point you seem unable to grasp is that nothing short of a legal action such as a successful taxpayer lawsuit or the AG bringing an action on the illegal premiums, we can't undo what was done.

By: Moving on

Moving on — Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:54:50 +0000

DJPoway, you must be new to these boards. Babs frequently provides us with wonderful vocab lessons. A couple of weeks ago she enlightened us on the meaning of the word apology.

By: Moving on

Moving on — Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:51:57 +0000

Ah, Ashley. I don't remember reading anything about this committee thinking that it has any authority over anything. It is trying "to determine what, if anything, can be done about the controversial Poway Unified School District capital appreciation bonds." It's investigating. And if this were a CYA move, as you maturely call it, then I think Mangum would be rushing to have results before the election. But he's not.

By: Babs

Babs — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:49:48 +0000

Positive?

As in "explicitly stated, stipulated, or expressed" vs. "names of the committee members are being withheld?"

Positive?

As in "disambiguous" vs. "We really have to come to understand something that is a web of maddening complex issues."

Where was the search for this understanding before mangum's and the board's vote in October 2010?

When the committee finishes and delivers the report to the school board, Humpty Dumpty can be the next client.

By: AshleyN

AshleyN — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 19:57:03 +0000

Mangum's not doing anything positive because the only wait out of this mess is through the legal system. His committee has no authority and is nothing more than a CYA move. And FYI no one has said Mangum was lacking in class or is not a nice guy. He was party to a really bad decision that will haunt this city for years.

By: GCW

GCW — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 15:23:34 +0000

Ha, ha, ha. That's really funny that you think DJ is Mangum. It is very apparent that you don't know Jeff Mangum. He has too much class and better things to do with his time — like working in a POSITIVE manner with the Bond Review Committee to address the issue.

By: Dissappointed Poway

Dissappointed Poway — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 06:13:41 +0000

DJ Poway aka "MANGUM" we are praying
you accept the things you cannot change,
courage to admit the things you were a part of,
and the wisdom to know it's time to walk away.
You & others involved with the bond are not
what Poway needs back at any point making decisions