Comments on: Mangum, Vaus clash at Poway forum over PUSD bonds http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/ Serving Poway, Rancho Bernardo and 4S Ranch Sat, 18 May 2013 17:38:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: DrewN http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-692985 DrewN Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:56:49 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-692985 Because that's not a relevant question. Because that's not a relevant question.

]]> By: DrewN http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-692972 DrewN Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:48:31 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-692972 Riiiight . Riiiight .

]]> By: Helen http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-692613 Helen Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:27:33 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-692613 We were theren't because there isn't any point. There's only one challenger for two spots. Plus as we have seen any legitimate questions about the bond have been squashed so why waste a perfectly good evening staring at Vanderveen and listening to crickets? We were theren't because there isn't any point. There's only one challenger for two spots. Plus as we have seen any legitimate questions about the bond have been squashed so why waste a perfectly good evening staring at Vanderveen and listening to crickets?

]]> By: attendee http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-692522 attendee Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:34:14 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-692522 Yes the numbers were few. However controversial questions submitted on the bond issues were as usual tossed aside, even those there was an extra 45 minutes of time. It was disheartening why the serious bond questions were disgarded. There was plenty of time for serious explanation and discussion. Question submitted: With the discovery of the costs, scandal and the humiliation that the last bond has caused the community; why do you feel that the resignation of the board members and top administrator should not occur? Perhaps a little strong, but if no wrong has been done explain it please. Yes the numbers were few. However controversial questions submitted on the bond issues were as usual tossed aside, even those there was an extra 45 minutes of time. It was disheartening why the serious bond questions were disgarded. There was plenty of time for serious explanation and discussion.
Question submitted: With the discovery of the costs, scandal and the humiliation that the last bond has caused the community; why do you feel that the resignation of the board members and top administrator should not occur?
Perhaps a little strong, but if no wrong has been done explain it please.

]]> By: Katie http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-691974 Katie Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:03:07 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-691974 If all these Vaus supporters are so upset about the bond issue, why were there so few people at the PUSD Board forum? They had the opportunity to question the board members who actually approved the bonds! I think they don't really care that much about it, they just want to smear Jeff Mangum! If all these Vaus supporters are so upset about the bond issue, why were there so few people at the PUSD Board forum? They had the opportunity to question the board members who actually approved the bonds! I think they don't really care that much about it, they just want to smear Jeff Mangum!

]]> By: MoneyMoney http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-691237 MoneyMoney Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:27:49 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-691237 Well let's try explaining this to you again. The resolution that you say was dropped was the very resolution attached to the validation action for the court to approve. The details were known in 2010. The general payoff was known in 2010. If you mean the actual interest rate you are correct - but you're splitting hairs. The Board knew in October and submitted to the County Board AND the court that the resolution passed in October 2010 would be substantially the same as what occured in July 2011. And just for argument's sake - it doesn't actually matter what happened to that October 2010 resolution. What does matter is that it confirms Mangum supported what the District was doing financially. That is all we really need to know now isn't it? Well let's try explaining this to you again. The resolution that you say was dropped was the very resolution attached to the validation action for the court to approve. The details were known in 2010. The general payoff was known in 2010. If you mean the actual interest rate you are correct – but you're splitting hairs. The Board knew in October and submitted to the County Board AND the court that the resolution passed in October 2010 would be substantially the same as what occured in July 2011.

And just for argument's sake – it doesn't actually matter what happened to that October 2010 resolution. What does matter is that it confirms Mangum supported what the District was doing financially. That is all we really need to know now isn't it?

]]> By: David http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-691160 David Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:13:32 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-691160 Sorry, KM, that you have selective hearing. The applause for Cunningham came at the beginning of his library answer when he began his remarks by referencing the need to get back to the subject of the question that was asked. Mr. Mangum then appropriately used his closing remarks to address Vaus' misrepresentations. I hope there is a legitimate video of the entire event -- an unedited version that is provided by those who sponsored the event so that we can trust the accuracy. Sorry, KM, that you have selective hearing. The applause for Cunningham came at the beginning of his library answer when he began his remarks by referencing the need to get back to the subject of the question that was asked. Mr. Mangum then appropriately used his closing remarks to address Vaus' misrepresentations.

I hope there is a legitimate video of the entire event — an unedited version that is provided by those who sponsored the event so that we can trust the accuracy.

]]> By: wendywhiz http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-690558 wendywhiz Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:53:38 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-690558 Too bad Vaus & Vinyard didn't answer the question about the library. I want to vote for candidates that have a committment to supporting and sustaining our library. Cunningham and Mangum took the question seriously and gave thoughtful answers guess who I am voting for. Too bad Vaus & Vinyard didn't answer the question about the library. I want to vote for candidates that have a committment to supporting and sustaining our library. Cunningham and Mangum took the question seriously and gave thoughtful answers guess who I am voting for.

]]> By: Helen http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-690363 Helen Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:52:17 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-690363 Vaus didn't launch an attack. You perceive it that way because you are so pigheaded in your absolute conviction that Mangum can do no wrong. People are fallible. The bond issue was a huge lapse in judgment and it goes back to 2007. Get over it. We're tired of reading the same arguments over and over and over again. Mangum needs to sit this one out. His credibility is shot for the time being. Sorry your guy isn't going to get elected this time. Can we just move on? Seriously folks. Vaus didn't launch an attack. You perceive it that way because you are so pigheaded in your absolute conviction that Mangum can do no wrong. People are fallible. The bond issue was a huge lapse in judgment and it goes back to 2007. Get over it. We're tired of reading the same arguments over and over and over again. Mangum needs to sit this one out. His credibility is shot for the time being. Sorry your guy isn't going to get elected this time. Can we just move on? Seriously folks.

]]> By: KM http://www.pomeradonews.com/2012/10/09/mangum-vaus-clash-at-poway-forum-over-pusd-bonds/#comment-690361 KM Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:51:09 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/?p=29265#comment-690361 David- You're either dilusional or you were not there & heard a wrong version of how the night went! Mr. Vaus did indeed answer the question first then proceeded to correct a false statement Mr. Mangum had made previously! Mr. Cunninghams answer to the question was also the exact answer Mr. Vaus had give previously & not a single person clapped to his answer, because we had heard that answered the same way previously. You need to reconsider your sources if someone relayed wrong how the evening went or YOU ARE CLEARLY DILUSUONAL. There were NO tantrums, The only applauding that happened was actually after one of Mr. Vaus's answers. Yes there was videotaping from the evening that will be posted. David- You're either dilusional or you were not there & heard a wrong version of how the night went! Mr. Vaus did indeed answer the question first then proceeded to correct a false statement Mr. Mangum had made previously! Mr. Cunninghams answer to the question was also the exact answer Mr. Vaus had give previously & not a single person clapped to his answer, because we had heard that answered the same way previously. You need to reconsider your sources if someone relayed wrong how the evening went or YOU ARE CLEARLY DILUSUONAL. There were NO tantrums, The only applauding that happened was actually after one of Mr. Vaus's answers. Yes there was videotaping from the evening that will be posted.

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