Preps: Change could come soon to CIF San Diego Section playoffs

The CIF San Diego Section could have a new playoff structure very soon, depending on the outcome of Wednesday’s 9 a.m. vote by superintendents at the Hall of Champions.

The proposal being put to a vote at the San Diego Section Board of Managers meeting will change the current format from divisions based on enrollment to divisions based on the strength of programs.

It could be put in place as early as this spring for baseball and boys and girls lacrosse.

Team records, playoff appearances, rankings and strength of schedule in the program’s last five years will all be factors in determining which division a team will be placed. The new structure will not include boys water polo, boys and girls tennis, boys and girls track and field, boys and girls golf or boys and girls cross country.

There will also be the creation of an Open Division, which would be filled by the top teams in the section.

The new structure has been in discussions for well over a year now and just last October was presented to the board for consideration.

The board has the option to approve, reject or delay the proposal.

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5 Comments for “Preps: Change could come soon to CIF San Diego Section playoffs”

  1. Makes No Sense

    My problem with this is that it awards mediocrity. You win the D5 CIF title in Football and it literally means that you were the best team that wasn’t good enough to be considered in the top 75!!! teams in the county. Why should a team that is placed no better than 76 by their ranking system be GUARANTEED to win a title in anything? Currently, I think it’s just fine that a D5 champion is considered a champion…because it’s based on enrollment, meaning they were the best from teams who had a small enrollment to draw from. That logic makes sense. Also, this prohibits the possibility of a magical season in which a typically poor performing school has a chance to win a real CIF title. Lets say a school who’s traditionally terrible and therefore placed in D5 has a magical season where they have all the right athletes and a great coach. They win their garbage CIF title, but never have a chance to win one that’s more meaningful, because the kids will know it’s a garbage title. And they’ll certainly never have the chance to play for state, being ranked so low in their own section.

    Does it make sense that Oceanside is D2 but is consistently the best team in the county, regardless of division? No, it doesn’t. But that’s a special program, and there’s no reason to make an exception just because of that. Does it make sense that Coronado, Torrey, Cathedral, Coronado, and La Jolla Country Day are the teams listed as the teams who win a ton of championships? Yeah…because they’re from affluent areas and some are private schools…I get that that part might not be fair…because affluent kids are less likely to have a job stopping them from participating in athletics. And they have the funds to play on travel teams. And they have better facilities. And all the other reasons you want to list. I get all that. But the fact of the matter is, if you put in the work and earn it, you DESERVE to be a champion. If anything, I could accept starting a new division just for private schools, because they do have an advantage over other small number schools. I just really don’t like the concept of saying “you’re terrible traditionally, so you can play for this championship that makes you the best of the horrible teams.” If anything I want to see MORE competition. Keep the divisions the same, and then make the respective Divisional CIF champions battle it out to see who the TRUE CIF champion is in each sport. Was it Poway or Helix in 2011? Helix won state, but Poway didn’t get the chance, and never faced Helix. Helix lost to Eastlake, who lost to Vista in the playoffs, who was destroyed by Poway in the finals. Each team had a claim to be the best in the county, but it was widely accepted that Helix was best. Let the boys play.

    America needs more competition. More emphasis on the mantra that hard work = success. Not more hugging and trophies for everyone. That’s what makes for a lazy nation, content with mediocrity and giving up, because who cares? Because if you can win a championship by being the 76th best High School in San Diego, you can do anything…by doing nothing.

    • Jim schlichting

      School enrollment should determine the classification
      Only those teams with a winning record should be in the playoffs.
      Last year there were many, many teams with losing records in the playoffs.
      Of course NONE reached even the semi-finals.
      Playoff are a reward for a good season, deserved.
      current selection for the playoffs is looked at as a big joke.
      This is what needs changing.

  2. Great Scott

    I assume Cathedral Catholic has their request for higher status ready to go. It is a joke to not list them in the Open division immediately in most Sports. In baseball they are the highest rated program but remain in Division I for the start of the new system. Why wait? The logic is flawed. if the new system is worth its efforts put the Elite School in the county in the Open elite division, NOW!

  3. Jim schlichting

    Why should a school who shows great ability with a small enrollment have to play at a higher level? Playing larger schools take them out of a division title, which should pit
    Them with division enrollment schools in the state. Not fair to punish a top notch program
    Because they are good and wouldn't the best often change from year to year?
    Just change your stupid rule of allowing losing teams in a season ending playoff.
    Stop rewarding mediocrity, they're big boys now!

  4. Jim schlichting

    why does my statement have to be approved?
    If you do not like my opinion it will not appear?
    All tax payers have a voice, come on.

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